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I perceive the Spirit of the Lord says (in a very loving, divinely caring tone): “I am going dim the lights so that My Brightness will begin to shine BRIGHTER” July 31, 2015 Taveau D’Arcy

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HOLY BIBLE ORGANIC: Without human mixture, synthetic ministry additives

APOSTOLIC NEW TESTAMENT ORGANIC: The Bible minus OT Levitical Law additives, WE Roman Patricianism, NEW Doctrines of the Nicolaitans, and many more

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ACCUSER PROOF CHRIST ACCEPTING
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“And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?” Matthew 9:4

WHEN MUCH MODERN ACCEPTED DOCTRINE allows finding one’s own identity in ones’ big GIFT, TALENT, ROLE, OLD TESTAMENT LEVITICAL LAW and TITLE..rather than IN CHRIST ALONE….

…..then we must doctrinally RE- EXAMINE and ELEVATE New Testament senior apostolic ministry…and reinvestigate WHO the Jesus Messiah was and HOW He interacted within all Relationships…by NOBLE BEREAN BIBLE RE-STUDYING what is translated as the GOOD NEWS: Meaning the GOSPELS: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

IFFM 10 ONGOING APOSTOLIC BIBLE RELATIONSHIPS:
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COMING SERIES….IN SEARCH OF BIBLE ORGANIC NEW TESTAMENT MESSIAH: JESUS CHRIST..Through the PERCEIVER EYES of RELATIONSHIPS

SUNDAY-TUESDAY AUG 2-4

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THE FOLLOWING REMAIN OPEN ENDED FOR MATURE APOSTOLIC LEADERSHIP TO SELAH PONDER

SELAH REGARDING PROPER MINISTRY DISCERNMENT BETWEEN:

**ACCUSATION VS PREACHING WITHOUT COMPROMISE

** PREACHING CONDEMNATION VS FALLING UNDER CONVICTION

** PRACTICING DISCERNMENT VS BEING CRITICAL

**WHAT IS (BOOK OF JUDE) “CONTENDING FOR THE FAITH” VS BEING CONTENTIOUS?

**WHAT IS AND IS NOT 2 TIMOTHY 3:16-17 HOLY BIBLE “REPROOF” “CORRECTION”?

**WHAT IS BEING GIVEN GREAT GRACE VS SOMEONE TAKING “LICENSE?

** WHAT /WHO IS BEING “THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS” /and “JUSTIFIED THROUGH FAITH” VS A PERSON BEING SELF JUSTIFYING AND LICENTIOUS?

INTENTIONALLY OPEN ENDED.

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“There’s nothing weak kneed about servant leadership”

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MINISTRY BEFORE AN AUDIENCE OF ONE
“Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect” ROMANS 12:2

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IFFM APOSTOLIC THEORY: On the Final Day we’ll each stand alone before the Living Lord and be expected to give a direct account before THE AUDIENCE OF ONE about all that we did or did not do, both personally and in ministry: therefore it is urgently important that we live each and every pioneering leader day with HIM and ETERNITY in mind.

“It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.”PSALM 118:8

“It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.”PSALM 118:9

“For do I now seek the favor of men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” GALATIANS 1:10

“Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide; keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom” MICAH 7:5

“Fear of (hu)man brings a snare, but they who puts their trust in the Lord shall be safe.” PROVERBS 29:25

“….but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.” I CORINTHIANS 10:12

“I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. My help cometh from the Lord, which made heaven and earth. He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not slumber. Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.” PSALM 121:1-4

“I can do all things through him who strengthens me.”PHILIPPIANS 4:13

“Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.” PSALM 20:7

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ARE WE OUTSIDE THE WALLS?
When Holy Spirit Moves, He Appears to Enjoy (Church Hopping Apart?) to the Local Hillside

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“For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.” MARK 7:8

“It strongly appeared that the Holy Spirit was just like Elvis Presley: He had left the building” Twitter EMERGE FROM CHURCH

Q. WONDERING: WHEN /HOW does any big ongoing FELLOWSHIP mistakenly, accidentally turn into an APOSTOLIC, OVER SEER PHARISEE BIG RELIGIOUS (attempt to BE IN CONTROL) SYSTEM?

“Q. DOES “THE FREEDOM FROM BEING BACK UNDER THE OT LAW” HILLSIDE EXIST (ONLY) APART FROM EVERY LOCAL HOUSE FOUR WALLS?
A. No, it is “INWARD, SPIRITUALLY PERCEIVED….as HOLY SPIRIT FREEDOM emanates from WITHIN every discerning leader’s mindsets, from way deep inside their purest heart..” Dr. T. D’Arcy

LEADER MAIN POINT:
HISTORICALLY and ministry APOSTOLICALLY neither did the Father God, nor the Savior, nor did (and now still DOES) the guarding, guiding, self governing ( right even NOW )HOLY SPIRIT ever color within the traditional /House lines.
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THE WRITER CONFINES THIS ARTICLE TO THE APOSTOLIC LEADERSHIP IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

1. THE GOSPELS (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John): Example LUKE 1: Neither was the birth of JOHN THE BAPTIST or JESUS CHRIST traditional, in any human way “TYPICAL” “NORMAL” but rather: GOD SENT.

2. Neither was the SENIOR OFFICE EVANGELISTIC MINISTRY of JOHN THE BAPTIST confined to anywhere inside of the Religious Form and Traditional System of that (pioneering leader, chief apostolic) DAY.**

**Surely the Temple Priest, Zacharias, the Dad of JOHN, was a lot more than a bit chagrined …for rather than growing up to follow in his temple priestly father’s footsteps, JOHN was NOT TYPICAL. Rather, Heavenly Father God intentionally sent the Priest and his dear wife, Elizabeth, a very NON TRADITIONAL ECLECTIC “apostolic minister” who preferred remaining OUT of the confining FOUR WALLS of the TEMPLE and out living in the wilderness, eating locusts and wild honey!)

3. When the Messiah, Savior, Christ was supernaturally conceived, it was surely atypical and probably created deep suspicion among the local priestly gatekeepers about His possibly being (rumored as) “CONCEIVED OUT OF WEDLOCK.”

4. WHEN the angels first announced the GOOD NEWS of JESUS BIRTH…they did not first appear to any one inside of the righteous TEMPLE SYSTEM of that day.

The heralding angels only appeared to what may be duly noted as “the humble shepherds..up on the hillside.”

5. When the mature JESUS CHRIST started His senior apostolic ministry, it was once again, nowhere inside the FOUR WALLS of what was then the LOCAL BIG LEVITICAL RELIGIOUS SYSTEM.
Rather Jesus took His own pioneering work planting, senior ministry (once again) OUTSIDE onto the (ministry free range) HILLSIDE.

6. BOOK OF ACTS 2: Rather than appear inside the FOUR WALLS, to “pour out on all assembled apostolic flesh” ( during one of the prayer meetings at the local religious temple) HOLY SPIRIT picked a ROOM set APPART from the BIG TEMPLE, to supernaturally anoint, equip and empower the 120 who were most likely perceived as temple heretics, spiritual outcasts, and “not UNDER TEMPLE AUTHORITY SUBMISSION.”

7. Any and all of the many healing, miracles, deliverances, resurrections mentioned in the GOSPELS, BOOK OF ACTS…were EACH not confined within THE FOUR WALLS of the religious temple Legalistic Chief overseeing PHARISEE Big System.

8. APOSTLE PAUL, who was ostracized for his first 13-14 years from being allowed to fellowship, to minister along with the first ORGANIC 11 FIRST CHURCH APOSTLES fled to ARABIA (Damascus) where, apart from any overseer “apostolic covering spiritual authority” He had so very many personal Holy Spirit encounters and God sent “abundance of the many revelations” that Paul was able to then pen two thirds of the NEW TESTAMENT. He penned (Galatians 1:1)

**“Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)”

9. TECHNICALLY,(GOSPELS) the spiritual fruit of the NEW TESTAMENT PHARISEE was, still is, the following:

1. Accuser ministry leader nature, throwing religious stones (complete opposite of Messiah Isaiah 11:2-3, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John)

2. Preserving Status Quo (usually attacking anybody whom they perceived might be threatening to their own mammon usually centric, Big Religious Perks, Self Respect System)

3.ACCUSER OVERSEERS: Keeping overseer, always watching, tabs on all (outside the Big System) others

<strong>4.MINISTRY ACHIEVEMENT PRIORITIZED OVER BUILDING, INTERRELATING WITH, PRESERVING,ANTI ACCUSER GUARDING, JESUS WHOLE COMMUNITY:

**BASED ON INTERMINGLING AMONG THE WELL MEANING SPIRITUAL FRUIT Sitting out among the seats, the ministry subgroup is NOT “into” genuine, authentic, respecting relationship.

**MINISTRY DEVALUING, DEHUMANIZING “ ALL REAL LIFE GOD MADE HUMANS” Ministry quick “fixing” people, rather than interrelating(common ex:“mourning with those who mourn”). Big Time achievement Busy RACIAL, GENDER, AGE, OTHER big STEREOTYPES

**APPARENT FEAR OF LEADER INTERACTION USING RELATIONSHIPS: BEING seen as BUSY VS pausing for RELATIONSHIPS spiritual fruit not ministry perceiving, top valuing the ENTIRE COMMUNITY as a fully accepting, spiritual connected HUMAN FAMILY;

**SPIRITUAL RELIGIOUS DOCTRINES OVER ALL TEN RELATIONSHIPS (see TEN RELATIONSHIPS on HOMEPAGE of this site) Example: Doctrines, top elder approving yielding to all House Good Rules, spiritual people pleasing/giving honor, doing good works, building, ministry achieving,spiritual people pleasing (prime example) religious pride in being regarded as “under” their own in House version of “ Legalistic Spiritual Authority”

5.AVOIDANCE OF, and NOT SUBMITTING FULLY TO OBEY GOD’S ENTIRE HOLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE Avoided up front (respectful) Matthew 18:15-17; Yielding only to preferred, hand selected, mostly BLESS ME faith filled Bible promises

6. SOME POP IDOL WORSHIP: Risking reproducing MEN PLEASERS rather than ONLY GOD PLEASERS DOCTRINE: Bowing down to the traditions of man, resisting any thing apart from what they perceive that they already know ,have witnessed and spiritually discern/understand. MINISTRY INCLUDES: OVER HONORING of 5 fold offices, enthroned hierarchy, ministry celebrity.

7. SELF SATISFIEDD “Comparing themselves among themselves, they are not (overseer) wise”

8. IN TV MEDIA WORSHIP CULTURE MAJORLY AFFECTED APOSTOLIC MINISTRY: Minus the PROVERBS 1:7 “Holy adding fear of the Lord “which is the beginning of mature WISDOM.”

9. APPARENTLY ACCUSER, BETWITCHED LEADERSHIP
**2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5 /I TIMOTHY 6:5 “From Such Turn Away” Apostolic Ministries

** BEGUILED APOSTLES: “O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?” GALATIANS 3:1 (for choosing to teach God’s people to go BACK UNDER the accusative, legalistic Old Testament Levitical Law)

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THE APOSTOLIC MESSIAH OPEN REBUKE,MATTHEW 23 more fully notes what the TEMPLE PHARISEE, OT Levitical Patricahial/subservient accuser Matriarchal SYSTEM PRODUCED SPIRITUAL FRUIT

CLICK TO READ (NOTE: NON Politically Correct) MATTHEW 23: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23&version=KJV

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ONGOING RELATIONSHIP BLESSED TRUE AUTHORITY
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SEE THE 10 ONGOING HOLY BIBLE APOSTOLIC RELATIONSHIPS
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SEARCH FOR SPIRITUAL ONGOING ABIDING FRUIT

APOSTOLIC SHALOM PEACE: Nothing missing, nothing is broken

RESPECT FOR ALL KINDS OF HUMAN REAL PERSONS: ROMANS 2:11 “For there is no respecter of persons with God.”

ONGOING MATTHEW 5:37 “Let your yes be yes, your no be no. Anything else comes from the evil one.”

THE ABSENCE OF FALSE USE OF AUTHORITY: control,manipulation, self seeking,deception, misuse of applied power,all forms of abuse, wrongly applied spiritual, emotional, physical, relationship pressure.


PERSONAL SELF GOVERNMENT: REVELATION 12:11
“They overcame HIM (the Accuser) by the blood of the Lamb, the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto death.”

EPHESIANS 2:14 “He is our peace, who has broken down ever wall of partitian, to make us both one.’

ONGOING JAMES 3:17 “The wisdom that comes from above is first of all pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruit**, without partiality, without hypocrisy.”

**GALATIANS 5:22-23 “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.”

THE ONGOING RELATIONSHIPS RESEMBLE THE NON ACCUSER MESSIAH of ISAIAH 11:3 “He will be quick of understanding, delight Himself in the fear of the Lord and will not judge by what He sees, nor make decisions based on what He hears.”

EPHESIANS 5:21 (in Home,Church,Community,Marriage,All 5 fold chief church offices) “Mutual submission in the fear of the Lord.”

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IFFM APOSTOLIC VINTAGE: DISCERNING THE MANY VOICES

“There are many voices in the world, and each one has significance.”

 I Corinthians 14: 10

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This may be viewed as as kernel Bible overview which may provoke new thinking which  may be used with children, teenagers through adult

Discernment Training 101

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5: 14

The Bible teachers that “there  are many voices in the world, and each on has significance.”(I Corinthians 14: 10). 

This means that ever single word or suggestion we hear or feel, actually means something.  

Now don’t start feeling all spooked out or weird. That is not from God (scroll down to  see James 3: 17)

Yet, Hebrews 5: 14 says that  it takes practice to learn how to discern what is evil from what is good.

 If the Bible tell us that we need to grow in discernment by practicing using our God given Holy Spirit gift of discernment of spirits (I Corinthians 12: 10)  then this means that God never demands that we are 100 per cent perfect in discernment.

However, the Bible does say that it needs to be used, which means practiced and even trained.  Although one can mature and grow in this Holy Spirit gift, ultimately we are not able to “achieve” being an accurate discerner. God, training, prayer and trial and mistakes DEVELOP the gift of discernment.

 Learning to accurately discern which is the  True Voice coming from the Living Shepherd, is a life long process. And it is like riding a horse: if you fall of, then just repent, but get back up on it again.

There Are Many Voices in the World

Here is an incomplete sampling of  many of the voices we hear in modern life:

1. Our own voice

2. Father God’s Voice: the inward witness of God’s Holy Spirit

3. Our thoughts, ideas

4.Voices of family and friends, peers, fellow workers, authorities

5.Voices on cell phones, computers, CD’s, Ipods, radio, DVDs, movies

6. Nightly News

7. Dreams, visions, intuition

 8. Feelings

9. Words of advice

10. Written words: blogs, books, websites, letters

11. Words from a prophet , senior pastor, Christian leader, TV minister, (or secular messages by secular media persons)

12. The voices of  government, civil authorities

So, HOW can we decide which voice is one that represents something Godly in our lives?

If we are listening to a word of prophecy or advice or even a message from a Christian leader, on TV or in church. HOW do we really tell if that word is TRULY SENT from the Living God?


First, it really pays to know Scriptures which tell us that God wants us to discern when He is guiding us. As we said, this takes many years of practice, but you first begin by meditating on the Scriptures and claiming them in faith for you God given ability to hear accurately from God.

Bible Scriptures to Start to Believe, Claim and Confess:

Ask God to sharpen your ability to  discern right from wrong, and ask Him for the gift of discernment of spirits listed in  I Corinthians 12: 1-10 (discernment is listed in v. 10)

“ But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, [and] easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.’ James 3: 17

“God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind.” I Timothy 1:7

“… the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice. I Kings 19:12

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: “ John 10:27

“The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.’ Psalm 37: 23

“Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: Hebrews 3:7-8 *

*(I put this verse since it lets us know that when we choose to ignore the voice of the Holy Spirit, our hearts will grow hard until it makes discerning what HE is trying to tell us impossible to hear.)

 Yielded in Selah respectful usual form.


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DOING GOOD WORKS VS DOING GOD WORKS

“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
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WE ALL need to be ready for what we stand before God’s Throne …on the Final Day.

SO HOW can we discern the big difference in any of us DOING GOOD MIGHTY WORKS and our doing ongoing GOD’S INSTRUCTED, HOLY SPIRIT BIRTHED “GOD WORKS?”

PSALM 127:1 “Except the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the Lord keeps the city, the watchman wakes but in vain.”…

JOHN 5:19 “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

Q. BUT HOW CAN WE “see what the Father is doing” so that we may ONLY do what He tells us to do? (meaning other more, nothing less)

A. Jesus “ SAW” via His (Only Truth Seeking) SPIRIT inwardly PERCEIVING, DISCERNING HE (perceiver) SENSED that God, His Loving apostolic Father, was impressing upon HIM either to DO or NOT to do.

AND the sample Bible based principle can also apply today. HOWEVER as may be very SUBJECTIVE to the new believer, non Christ Follower, spiritually immature, any SPEAKING IMPRESSION, VOICE must be in line with God’s Holy Bible.

(AND always try TESTING the “many voices in this world which have significance” I Corinthians 14:10c) using at least, the two SPIRITUAL FRUIT TESTING BIBLE VERSES:

JAMES 3:17’The wisdom that comes from above is first of all PURE, PEACEABLE, EASILY ENTREATED, FULL OF MERCY, and good FRUITS, without PARTIALITY and without HYPOCRISY.”

2 TIMOTHY 1:7 “God has not given me a spirit of FEAR, but of POWER, LOVE and of a SOUND MIND.”

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AND ATTEMPTING to perceive and discern (to hear back from the LORD) will require an ongoing abiding (time consuming, Come Away My Beloved) RELATIONSHIP (First Love Lampstand Lifestyle) similar to going apart (like Jesus always continually did) to whatever Garden of Gethsemene that God points out to YOU (Also well known as In the PSALM 91 Secret Place of the Most High)

AND THERE as you and the Lord spiritually commune, with Bible in hand, perhaps with worship music softly playing…GOD reveals simply, peacefully, directly TO YOU via His Holy Spirit.

SAMPLE BIBLE VERSE: EPHESIANS 1:17 (Apostle Paul prays for the Churches) “That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ the Father of glory may give YOU the SPIRIT OF WISDOM and (ongoing, Holy Spirit downloaded) REVELATION in the KNOWLEDGE OF HIM **

*Meaning NOT just our knowing many Bible verses ABOUT Jesus, but rather knowing HIM intimately and personally via Holy Spirit communication in an (ABIDING IN THE VINE )RELATIONSHIP.)

JOHN 15:6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.”

PROPHET DANIEL knew the Lord in this amazing manner, for Daniel described the Most High “Ever (desiring to) revealing” Father God, as “the revealer of secrets/mysteries” DANIEL 2:28

GENESIS 5 ENOCH “Enoch Hung out with The Lord 24/7/365 Real Time”

“And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.”

YET, out among the Current Senior Pioneering Ministry Day, there are some who APPEAR to be “doing the Lord’s work’ but who are NOT in it for helping those who are lost to find a RELATIONSHIP with the LIVING LORD, through the saving grace of accepting JESUS CHRIST.

MINISTRY IMPURE VS PURE LEADER MOTIVES (SHEEP VS BIG GOAT**) are mentioned here (we submit it to each Reader, as a FINAL DAY READY apostolic test:

**Abiding BIG GOATS do not place ALL ABIDING RELATIONSHIPS, NOR PLACE ONGOING JAMES 3:17 (INTO ALL RELATIONSHIPS) FRUIT at the Top of their Ministry Leader Priorities (see the 10BIBLE RELATIONSHIPS on the TOP of this WEBSITE HOME PAGE)

MATTHEW 7:22-23

“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

SUBMITTED RESPECTFULLY IN JAMES 3:17 SELAH

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Excerpt from PURE PROPHETIC PRINCIPLES: “De-Spookyfying the Spirit of Prophecy” (c)2013 Taveau D’Arcy all copyrights reserved Published CELEBRATION OF HIS WORD PUBLISHING

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PERCEIVING THE WORD FROM THE LORD COMPARED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW
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“Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.” EPHESIANS 2:19-20 (IFFM Ministries Foundational Bible Verse)

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;” HEBREWS 1:1-2

“Surely God will do nothing unless He first tells His servants, the prophets.” AMOS 3:7

THIS WILL BE IN BASIC OUTLINE FORM

Presented in JAMES 3:17 Submitted Selah, rather than autocratic dogma.

POINT: THE LIVING CREATOR GOD STILL SPEAKS, ONGOING REVEALS TODAY (O.T Daniel 2:28, N.T.Ephesians 1:17)

POINT: IN MODERN CHRISTIAN NEW TESTAMENT MINISTRY there are many different major Old Testament Legalism VS New Testament “minus Legalism” quite different , even very subtle doctrinal Bible views.

POINT: In both OLD TESTAMENT and the NEW TESTAMENT God speaks through the WORD OF THE LORD to His People. YET this word is sometimes given through the “WALK IN THE OFFICE OF THE PROPHET” ( ORAL) and WRITTEN in both OLD TESTAMENT and NEW TESTAMENT. “discerned and perceived submitted In House office of the prophet “leader oracle” local, national WORD and also by the words, decrees, commands, promises, wealth of many different depths of levels of knowledge in the Holy Scripture

New Testament: Jesus said to the Sadducees” You err not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God” MATTHEW 22:29

POINT: In these New Testament non legalistic days, we each must choose whether or now we intentionally ALLOW any of our own prophetic Bible leader doctrines to keep people back UNDER the Old Testament Levitical Law or not. Submitted Selah.

MAJOR POINT: THE (IS 10:27 yoke breaking/Holy Spirit) ANOINTING from the Lord on the SPOKEN WORD and the WRITTEN WORD must be discerned, perceived and NOBLE BEREAN discussed, yet always bearing the (non accusative) spiritual fruit of abiding JAMES 3:17, Ephesians 1:1-2

POINT: The reason for clearly discussing the difference in the method God used to convey about those who are hand picked to “walk the prophetic office” comparing both the Old and the New Testament is to help win more unbelieving, seeking persons to the saving realization that there is a living, answering, directing, revealing God. THUS how HE is represented in all Bible New Testament accuracy is right now of main, if not urgent, ministry leader importance.

POINT: HEBREWS 1:1-2 is a very important verse in light of discussing the “Bible office of the prophet”

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;” HEBREWS 1:1-2

V 1. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

**”God the Father spoke in times past” means “the Old Testament”

**”God spoke in times past unto the fathers” ( the tribal, leader patriarchs,ruling kings, princes, temple high priests over the houses of the Hebrew nation of Israel, Judah)

**The reason WHY God used the PROPHETS to inquire after the word of the Lord on behalf of the rulers of God’s people was due to the fact that in that Torah, Mosaic Law, Pentateuch period of Time, there were very few persons who could perceive the (I Kings 19:9) “still small voice of the Lord” (God’s Holy Spirit)

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DUE TO THE FACT that the Holy Spirit did not dwell in individual’s inner hearts, since Christ, the Messiah, had not been sent to earth. BECAUSE of the Fall of Humankind (Genesis 3) the once back and forth, each human person directly to the Father God RELATIONSHIPS was cut off, for the holiness of the glorious Living God could not dwell in close relationship as He had once done (in Eden);

The Human Fall left the Father with a big need to set up a rules, law worship SYSTEM to help each person discern and observe both human (guarding, governing, guiding, setting judgements, penalties, atoning)

I READILY admit the following is an understatement…

1. To continually remind the people of His Glorious Goodness …as well as to keep the ‘fear of the Lord” to keep His own people in line…AND for purposes of keeping them accountable, as before Him:  that they were only here on earth but for a short time, and that they would each stand before the judgement seat of a a holy fearful God on the Final Day

2) And that by obeying Him and the Book of the Law…HE would bless and protect them and their entire nation which consisted of the 12 tribes.

ABIDING by all the atonements, sacrifices, praise and worship, including certain ceremonies and many Levitical practices would continually keep the people in the “abiding holy fear of the Lord” and aide them in preserving, governing, guarding LIFE , RELATIONSHIPS, value HUMAN PERSONS, rather than just let anyone do whatever they felt like doing. (NO SELF CONTROL thus equals NO ORDER, CHAOS which would hurt, rob , murder, destroy GOD’S OWN VALUABLE HUMAN CREATIONS.

BASICALLY: Jesus Christ came 1) reconcile humankind back unto GOD Himself (for once again RELATIONSHIPS) but also for enlarging HIS ETERNAL FAMILY, in the New Testament to give back “self governing, self control” (Galatians 5:22 fruits of the Spirit) …. via a personal, indwelling on going heart to heart relationship with God via the intermediary of Christ and (non legalistic) Bible training, renewing of the mind, etc)

HE blessed the Church with the deposit of the HOLY SPIRIT (paraclete, Comforter) to help them in DISCERNING, PERCEIVING, the things of God, but also HIS POWER to help, guard, bless and preserve them and to help each one who really wants to, to discern, to perceive HOW TO HEAR FROM THE LORD.

AND ALSO God would then use this form of PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP to call many to HIMSELF for MINISTRY..some eventually He would sift, mature and entrust as EPHESIANS 4:11 FIVE FOLD OFFICE MINISTRY GIFTS to His apostolic beloved CHURCH.

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OLD TESTAMENT: In V 1: “God spoke in DIVERS MANNERS” through the Old Testaments’ “walk in the office of the prophets” (Simply study all of the many Old Testament mature prophets (Noah, Moses, Enoch, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Elijah, Elisha, Amos, Obadiah, Malachi….just to name a very FEW) and you will observe the WAYS, METHODS in which God used them to draw dramatic attention to HIMSELF, HIS DIRECT WORDS and to call down NATIONAL, VENGEFUL JUDGEMENT. **

This has historically produced a ministry, leader passed down traditional, legalistic view of the “OFFICE OF THE PROPHET” as accusing, and calling down fire and brimstone on all of the SINNERS.  (which any reader must know recall any national, media, TV, current mental pictures of what /who THEY consider to be a PROPHET..to see how each one of THEM models it in the light of HEBREWS 1:2

** All of which we see role modeled today in manners which do not ALWAYS convey that the Minister so called PROPHET, has fully understood the NEW TESTAMENT ministry implications of what/how, the OFFICE OF THE PROPHET would act (MUCH OF THE TIME) right today. HENCE the need to submit HEBREWS 1:2 for healthy balanced.

HEBREWS V 2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

POINT: V. 2 “In these last days’ (New Testament, Jesus Christ ministry onward to right NOW)

POINT: “In these last days (God) has spoken unto us by His SON (apostolic PROPHET’S HEAD TRUE PROPHET…the Isaiah 11:1-3 Messiah, Jesus Christ) …

POINT: IF God now uses PROPHET JESUS as the NEW TESTAMENT ROLE MODEL for any Ephesians 4:11 “OFFICE OF THE (ORACLE) PROPHET” then if one checks the MINISTRY , PERSONAL LIFE remaining FRUIT which was recorded in the New Testament, then this would be each one of OUR ROLE MODELS, BIG STANDARD.

**ISAIAH 11:1-3 “Born not from Tribe of Levi, but from Judah, the nonaccuser Messiah”

“And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:;And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

**REVELATION 19:10 “The testimony of (the non accuser leader) Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”

**PROPHET JESUS CHRIST (his life, senior apostolic ministry FRUIT would need to then be exhibited in the FRUIT of each LIFE who claimed to move in the ( OFFICE OF THE PROPHET, REV 19:10 SPIRIT OF PROPHECY). By NOBLE BEREAN careful examination…of JESUS as described in His MINISTRY, LIFE, per each one of His many ongoing RELATIONSHIPS as recorded in THE GOSPELS: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John

**ACTS 10:38 “Jesus went about doing good, healing all who were oppressed by the devil for the Lord was with Him”

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WONDERING: In any of Jesus Christ’s RELATIONSHIPS (Mother, Family, Siblings, Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, the many idolators, Romans, many chief sinners, leader females, males, little children, roving demoniacs, etc) WHICH are the human persons whom MESSIAH ever openly REBUKED?

DID APOSTOLIC TRUE OFFICE PROPHET ever rebuke anyone other than the New Testament PHARISEES who were making His Father’s House misrepresent the ORGANIC TRUE NATURE of HIS HEAVENLY FATHER but putting much more emphasis on performing good works, paying of monies, many rules, sacrifices, which by JESUS own coming “he fullfillled” and had DONE AWAY WITH.

MATTHEW 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.”

ASIDE Read Matthew 23 Christ open rebuke to all of the PHARISEES (meaning in red letters!).

CHRIST IN MATTHEW 23 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23&version=KJV

SENIOR MINISTRY ASIDE….Today, if Jesus Christ walked up to platform and started to say THIS (apostolic MATTHEW 23 all in red letters) …many 5 fold offices today would label Jesus Christ a “mean spirited, divisive, attacking, contentious” thereby rationalizing that now, as it was strongly evident that (no longer Sweet Baby) Jesus had “formed many bitter root judgements” against the temple high priests and could be accused as being “GUILTY” of harboring UNFORGIVENESS against the Temple High Priest PHARISEES, that now they could all dismiss everything thing this “accuser troublemaker” said!

NOTE: Isn’t amazing how PHARISEEISM resembles the nature of the ACCUSER and JESUS CHRIST (THE ISAIAH 11:2-3 non legalistic, non Levitical MESSIAH)  always embodied the nature of HIS OWN CREATOR FATHER…both of Whom top prioritized ALL RELATIONSHIPS over RULES….

AND like nonaccuser /up front confronter CREATOR FATHER(Genesis 3:9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”) and JESUS HIS  ISAIAH 11:3  NON ACCUSER (but always respectfully , Matthew 18:15-18 Up front confronting!) blessed ORACLE TRUE PROPHET SON.

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4.WE MAY CONCLUDE: MAJOR POINT

Back in the Pre Fall ,Garden of Eden, God and the first two humans lived in what we could describe as a 24/7/365 back and forth, undivide dabiding REAL TIME ongoing RELATIONSHIP.

BUT when SIN entered into the GARDEN, accusation also came in and from then all ALL RELATIONSHIPS (see TEN RELATIONSHIPS home page  lower right, http://www.creativeorganicleader.com
ACCUSER OVERCOMER: GALATIANS 5:22-23, REVELATION 12:7-12

ONLY AFTER Jesus Christ was born, died, raised again, did He give the Church back the SELF GOVERNING, ATONING, COMMUNICATING DIVINE SUPERNATURAL (ongoing) Holy Spirit Power along with the GALATIANS 5:23-23 “self governing fruits of the Spirit” , power to not accuse REVELATION 12:7-12)

V 7.And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

V 8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

V 9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

V 10. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

V 11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”

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LATER, IN 2 TIMOTHY 1:7 APOSTLE PAUL would write the Church “God has not given you the spirit of FEAR, but of POWER, LOVE and a SOUND MIND”

PASTOR JAMES of the Church of Jerusalem, (Jesus 1/2 brother) would pen:

JAMES 3:17 (for all abiding prophetic words, all relationship fruits) “The (any) wisdom that comes from above is first of all pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, without hypocrisy”**

***ABIDING by JAMES 3:17 in personal, doctrinal disagreements, and also for assessing, gauging WHOM we submit to, fellowship closely with and from whom we accept COUNSEL, CORRECTION, and any APOSTOLIC, PROPHETIC LEADER WORDS

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