“PERCEIVER MADNESS” NOTE: see also www.organicleader.org God’s KINGDOM ORDER with a complementary, similar unfolding topic)
UPCOMING ON THIS DISCERNMENT & PERCEPTION Series
Aug 21 OVER VIEW restated, it is such a complex topic, that we want to leave no bases uncovered, meaning in the laying a Bible foundational sense
HOW PERSONALITY TYPES REGARD PERCEPTION, DISCERNMENT (leader assertive, leaders very laid back) Aug 22
Following that: Posting: The Phariseeical History of Sin Spying (PERCEIVER GIFTS GONE AWRY)
Later: MANY MORE PERCEIVER GIFTS GONE AWRY with subjects like envy/jealousy/spooky spiritual/overly introspective, loss of supernatural leader power ,etc
Excerpt from the new book: GOVERNING YOUR PERCEIVER GIFTING (C) 2013 Taveau D’Arcy Celebration of His Word Books, All rights reserved under international copyright laws.
TODAY I would like to continue the SECOND part in our SERIES (which began : Monday August 19 about GOVERNING YOUR PERCEIVER GIFTING.”
Once again, this is intended to be a SERIES of TD Blog posts concerning the deep in’s and out’s of being born with (blessed with, not as in cursed in having one) what I will name GOVERNING YOUR PERCEIVER GIFTING (C) 2013 Taveau D’Arcy Celebration of His Word Books All copyrights reserved
I would ask that you please take time to check what lies inside YOUR own heart, to prepare to HEAR CLEARLY and to be able to decide IF what the writer is teaching is or is NOT true.
FIRST: Please review the Discernment and Perception prior blog, posted on August 16 and forward.
And yes, today’s installment is super LONG. BUT needed.
MAIN PERCEIVER REAL GOALS: WHAT WE AIM TO COVER IN THIS SERIES.
1. When discussing mental, spirit, perceptive, seer, gifting we need to fully understand that this is not a science when one may hand out FORMULAS. Each human person who has been made by GOD is equally valid, extremely important but amazingly SPECIAL and UNIQUE.
AND God intentionally fashioned many more intuitive, perceptive in basic nature than many others, whom He fully intended to be primarily analytical, logical and black and white, with a harder tolerance for what they may feel is “too emotional” or “getting way too out there, too spooky.”
And in both sets of God made Humans, due to culture, lack of knowledge, lack of sound Bible based understanding, the fear of losing control or of missing it, making a big fool of oneself OR a fear of falling into nonBiblical error (this writer’s own once big fears)..there is a whole LIST of pressures, fears, as well as God sent VS devil also sent PERCEPTIVE/DISCERNMENT needs to pin point to help each of us NOT lose Bible balance and get either flakey, goofy, or turn superior, icey, elite, and super spiritual about OUR OWN SPIRITUAL GIFTING.
Though the writer was raised NON charismatic, prophetic or pentecostal, still both of her parents, both of her grandmothers, who each descended from full of Godly Bible genuine faith, were natural, very genuine and NOT one but super spiritual nor flakey, still were daily GUIDED, by God’s Holy Spirit “inward witness” from the first memories of this writer, who remembers her mother’s mother, Boo, asking the Lord to help her find a parking spot.
So “perceiving, discerning” the inward witness of the Lord is nothing without also serving both spiritual, intuitive, directional which is also PRACTICAL. As one needs to get precise direction from the LORD all along Life’s sometimes hard, problematic WAY. Yet above all of that is needing to be truly prepared for what lies AFTER we all leave this Planet. NOBODY can escape entering into “ETERNITY” be it ONE hot, dark eternal PLACE or another, HAPPY,LOVING, JOYFUL eternal place.
FOR more deep thought provoking ETERNAL DECISION TYPE SELAH: www.organicleader.org HOLY SPIRIT KINGDOM ORDER unfolding teaching
Start with blogs on AUG 2, 2013 onward.
FOR AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE AIM TO COVER IN THIS “GOVERNING YOUR OWN SPIRITUAL GIFTING”
1. Writers’ reasons which sparked her to Bible study this topic (AUG 19)
2. Realms of perception one person or another MAY or MAY not need to realize about:
- The existence of either HEAVEN or HELL and how to enter one and avoid the other***
- Either accepting Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Savior, or rejecting Him, and turning toward another false way ***
***NOTE: this we shall not go deeply into in this BLOG as we have covered it in deep depth on the www.organicleader.org HOLY SPIRIT KINGDOM ORDER beginning Aug 2- onward…So please study that.)
- After accepting Jesus Christ, which is technically being saved, born again, God places a deposit of His Holy Spirit inside the born again persons Human SPIRIT. And this then gives them the God’s granted GRACE (free, not achieved, not desired by good works) to then PRAY, ASK GOD FOR DIRECTION/EVEN HELP but then to find out from the FATHER, who they are (meaning in the deepest destiny, person hood, creative, ministry, business, family, personal deep SENSE) which is what THIS blog is about.
- YET, that is not a fast food, microwave PROCESS. It is unfolding, and happens along God’s Narrow Way (see the other recommended blog about that Narrow Gate.
- I presume that the Reader has now made the decision to follow the Risen Savior, and is now committed to walk on the Narrow Way VS the Broad Way that the Bible teaches “ends in destruction.”
- Yet, that is none of the writer’s business, but having made that Eternal Choice, it will be the key help factor as we continue discussing YOUR GIFTING. The only reason WHY? Because to if YOU want to “hear the voice of the Good Shepherd who gives LIFE to His sheep” then one must KNOW, and TRUST the Shepherd.
- As I continue to explain, this is a great BIble verse to PRAY and FULLY CLAIM by faith: “My sheep will know my voice and the voice of the stranger they will not follow.”
- “Test the spirits to see if they come from God” JAMES 3:17 “The wisdom that comes from above is first of all PURE, PEACEABLE, EASILY ENTREATED, FULL OF MERCY and GOOD FRUITS, without PARTIALITY and without HYPOCRISY. ”
- For the apprehensive I Timothy 1:7 “God has not given us a spirit of fear but of POWER, LOVE and a SOUND MIND.”
OVERVIEW of SPIRITUAL PERCEIVER, DISCERNER BIBLE REAL LEVELS:
1. The realm of personal Salvation
2. The realm of Bible study, logos, renewing your own mind by long term indepth BIble training
3. The realm of thought, decisions, daily problem solving, deciding between ONE choice or another similar one, big career, marriage, senior ministry big decisions, overseer /business owner/head of family /senior 5 fold office ministry business /dealing with persons, finances, making goals, and DESTINY ongoing discoveries and dealing with the twists and turns , may surprises, dilemmas of this Fallen Real Life world.
4. SOME will move from making many choices, practicing daily God’s guidance, to then PERCEIVE, DISCERN that God may have a CALL TO MINISTRY on their life.
This Bible study deals with that also.
5. There is a realm of God’s Spirit which is rooted in one of the Bible ministry Ephesians 2 /4 “5 fold ministry offices” and that is the OFFICE of the PROPHET.
And this writer walks in all of the 5 offices. The pastor being her least gifting.
And while certainly NOT raised in /around any of this in the Southern Baptist faith, God directed her into the praying in the spirit in her junior year in college, but then He started her into what is named by many as “the prophetic” in 1991.
What she observed, learned, watched, and saw, both WONDERFUL but also WACKY, UNLOVING or TOO OVER NAVEL GAZING (super spiritual, way too over introspective, even UNLOVING, ME SUPER CENTERED) stimulated her to teach BALANCE and to point out that while JESUS CHRIST walked as the main SENIOR OFFICE OF THE PROPHET of all times, that HE embodied James 3:17 (see above) but also Acts 10:38
“JESUS WENT ABOUT DOING GOOD healing all who were oppressed by the devil” Acts 10:38“
…and after seeing a lot of super senstivity, self promotion and superiour lack of genuine relatable CHRIST LIKE LOVE, the writer shall later examine REVELATION 19:10″ The testimony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.”
MAIN POINT: There is a big difference in what the Bible teaches as the “spirit of prophecy” (we shall expound on what that means..but at another time, but basically it means an impression one is given from the Holy Spirit with a message that “edifies, comforts and strengthens” (while this is at the most personal, lay, minister first level, we all understand that this gift may also manifest in varies ways and degrees. (from the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY in an message in tongues in a corporate meeting/which would be followed by a person who interprets, OR Bible history as it unfolds (for example) regarding the End Times, nation of Israel, more.
BUT the last 2 will not be discussed as they are NOT the writer’s calling.
SHE will however, discuss the human, daily, but 5 fold office realms.
BUT just for now we say 1) there is a world of difference between the spirit of Holy Spirit wisdom, revelation, spirit of prophecy and a person who “walks in the office of the prophet.”
(NOTE: For this ministry teaching, we describe the OFFICE OF THE PROPHET is only WORKED IN A PERSON by the LORD and during a over all process that requires TIME, repeated SIFTING, HARDSHIPS and making many MISTAKES, more)
This is a verse points to a SEER, OFFICE OF THE PROPHET and perhaps farther on, we can discuss HOW this happens, as it is a prophetic GIFTING which God uses, but never for personal advantage or voyeurism.
Yet, there are various levels of the OFFICE of the PROPHET; in local churches, Christ Following communities, and national Bible offices, which the Bible teaches on as “giving a word from the Lord to the head of the nation, all of the people of a nation” and/or “a God given WORD for “those who have ears to hear.” (more later not time for it today!!)
I list it as God reminded me to post it, but it is to stimulate that YES, God does use the SUPERNATURAL but never in the realm that produces FEAR, SPYING or for personal ELEVATION, SUPERIOR SPIRITUAL SELF SERVING PRIDE.
THE WIDE SPECTRUM FOR A PERCEIVER, DISCERNER GOD CREATED PERSONALITY
What Sparked the Writer To Bible Study: Personal Life “Perceiver” Background
After being raised in a emotionally mature, parentally/God secure loving perceiver (but not dependent or pentecostal or charismatic, but Southern Baptists, who descended from Presbyterian on my dear Mother’s perceiver basic side and my dear Dad, who came from hearty Methodist, Southern Baptist, country physicians, deep south, educators, among them teachers, principals, superintendent of very small public school districts.
AND it was not on anybody’s high priority list to ACHIEVE being any kind of gifted PERCEIVER/DISCERNER. It was simply a part of God’s Word, the Bible, and it to each one of them, matter of daily Real Earthly Life: seeking personal, family guidance in family and business, doing the Lord’s Work and not being killed off early by the Enemy, whom each one, none of the back then tongue speakers, truly UNDERSTOOD was very near and present.
And also because I never once THOUGHT of “book of Acts theology” until very much later, when I was led by the Spirit of the Lord to study, actively Bible study, even hang out under what was the “Holy Spirit anointing” for prayer, healing and worship (even lively dancing and /or relaxing under the peaceful Holy Spirit power) (starting about the early 1990’s AND because (to show my deep respect for my Southern Baptist, Godly true Christ follower parents) I never ever heard ONE (zero) biased word in our house or their senior pastor ministry AGAINST any tongue prayers, or even any other Christian name brands, OR any nonbelievers much less any bigoted, racist or gender biased, and/or anti any government, ministry leader or TV personality …in my life.
IT was not until being called into the public regional area wide pioneering ministry that, when I was not among similar like minded board members, senior ministers, God picked pastor friends, wise advisors, BUT out with all of the “Christian Name Brands” That I was ever exposed to anti ANYONE religious bias, spirit of division and then later had my very first female leader experience with what this writer now has coined as Levitical Patriarchism, (OT legalism prejudice, apostolic fear) of females leaders.
And beginning 1996, the year that the Lord began to send her OUTSIDE her own home sphere on senior pioneering ministry engagements, the Lord allowed her to visit among born again Christians, to notice how various areas, regions, wide cities, can have very different methods, doctrines and spiritual (not all kind, positive) influences, some occult, some winds of doctrine, others simply bigotry or unkind partiality.
SHe was grateful to have been blessed by her parents, and all of her board members, pastor circle of wise advisors, mature intercessors and helpers.
And after the writer began to notice a shift toward “pioneering ministry achievement, prestige and accompanying winds of leader doctrines, 3-4 times (spread out over 20 years) the writer was accosted, jumped in a public setting, without ever being addressed privately, personally or even upfront confronted by a single style of immature attack religious doctrine (perhaps needing to become well know) Wannabes.
And due to her big experience in her ability to respect , to trust leader, and REAL MANLY MAN leaders (not just females) God used that to have HER to let the Lord search HER own heart “to see if there was any wicked way in her” but also to BIble Study (from then until this present day) in “Noble Berean Jews Healthy Leader Style” ALL their doctrines, and then the many prophetic, charismatic, pentecostal, evangelical, and those who are from low level ministry to very high national strength NON grass roots levels.
And what the writer is now teaching about has been learned and witnessed for both some VERY POOR but also some excellent and valuable Truly Worthy.
ANd she submits this to each Worthy Reader, in Noble Berean pick it apart (non attack but James 3:17) fashion.
And after being repeatedly sent by the Lord to our most deep south state, the writer, first encountered PERCEIVER DISCERNER Christian believers, who first named their other fellow Christians, even pastors, as “witches, warlocks” and “Jezebels” …it seemed to hear back then innocent ears, like a lot of dark, fear, evil based, even producing apostolic paranoia: it was SO spooky but SO “accuser enabling.”
Upon my return I was inspired by the Lord to write a leadership article “Psychic Star Wars and the Body of Christ‘ (I may see if I can find it and reprint it). BUT it was the first time EVERY when I started to feel that maybe attending at least SOME of God’s Houses were NOT the safest place for LEADER APOSTOLIC REAL WOMAN.
(and as I have now studied the non fearful, organic Apostle Paul who wrote “in nothing be afraid of your adversaries,” BUT who also penned the Letter to the Ephesians, which was located in the same town as the 50K Mega Cult of the Temple Diana was located, (talk about Jezebel City!) yet HE nor any other of the First Chief Apostles carried the burden of unclean demon suspicious spying on ANYONE..male, even sinful female, or any roving Demoniac of the Gadarenes.
The principal real reason for all of that: Paul and all of the FIRST Church Apostles, had the book of Acts 2 POWER of God’s SPIRIT OF POWER and leader MIGHT.
So when I kept bumping into “she’s a witch” or “he’s a warlock” suspicious DARK EVIL SPYING (emotionally , spiritually fearful, weak) it cautioned ME to get out my own BIBLE to deeply STUDY.
I now watch WHOM I allow to speak into my life. AND would advise ALL persons to NOT just sit and swallow “everyone else’s spiritual KOOL AID.”
AND this was mixed (in some Certain Styled) basic groups with over much legalism mixed in with hierarchy, performance, ministry achievement AND In the spiritual doctrine,there was an acute “dark demon conscientiousness” with SOME non evangelical true ones, even labeling, yet never up front Matthew 19:15-18 Bible confronting (appearing to be many many leader, female, pastor, intercessor) others (from afar) as “witches” “Jezebels” and “Ahabs” usurpers.
Happily, your writer was NOT raised by that twisted misshapen “always searching for the next dark devil” oppressive theology, She was raised to know that Jesus paid the price for the CHURCH to carry the Victorious Name of Jesus who had, still has, “victorious power OVER all powers, principalities and every name that was named.”
Yet, she admits, being caught at one point, off spiritual guard, as all the NEW Doctrine was heady, mixed in with really GOOD moving in the Spirit, discerning and deep beautiful worship.
I also realized that this dark demon focused GROUP, while mostly well intentioned, have lost the VICTORY of the New Testament Risen Jesus. Too many of them continually ‘watch” self protectively, suspiciously perceiving /accusing, too many from afar, due to the misshapen charismatic twisted, Accuser enabling pioneering fruit.
But this subjective well intentioned group, can grow accusatively legalistic, even attacking WHEN they do not realize that JESUS and Apostle Paul each did not regard women as less than, second class. AND forget Prophetess Deborah who ruled as a national judge in the national gates, presiding OVER BOTH men and women.
(aside: if we can put a halt to the Accuser of both the MOTHEREN, SISTEREN as well as the BRETHEREN (Rev 21:11) I fully believe that when God’s House is once again noised about as a SPIRITUALLY SAFE HAVEN, that many MORE will return and NEW believers will want to stay to truly commit.
BUT when the Lord pointed to the many different TYPES of true People that HE uses, He wanted to reveal to me HIS NATURE in both the ‘deeply perceiving /spiritually perceiving “intuitives” who are equally needed, very valid (when balanced and happy /content, perceiving themselves as OVER (not oppressed and fighting continually UNDER) but IN God’s Victory …God also pointed out the much more assertive, prone to take proactive action, achieving, worship in mostly praising, (Dr.T names them TYPE A) the first people groups TYPE B..
AND DR. T (when the Lord moves) can be anointed to move in EITHER. And this teaching is due to the need to remove shame, fear, labeling, legalistic spirits of division.
AND as this is a HARD topic to deeply cover in a short blog, she will make an AUDIO or VIDEO discussion of this and post it on her www.taveau.org ministry website.
To wind things up for today, there are 2 Bible verses which point to the realm of DISCERNMENT which may give the PERCEIVER a potential to run to God for help with CLEAR HOLY SPIRIT perceptive -discernment OR they may lapse into accusation, snap judging, even eventually spreading gossip.
Acts 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad(means rumored about), the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
POINT: Many times gossip, rumors, are “noised abroad” in towns, in some churches and on media.
Isaiah 12:3 points to the fruit of the coming Messiah, Jesus, “He delighted in the fear of the Lord and did not judge by the sight of His eyes or make decisions based on what He heard.”
And the CHURCH is in the position, where it needs to either RISE UP and to begin better resembling the nonaccusative Messiah, rather resembling, through ENABLING the Accuser, Deceiver.
God’s GOOD NEWS says that if we will submit to it by yielding to it, that WE have already been given the VICTORY:
Revelation 12:11 “They (US) overcame him (the Accuser) by the blood of the Lamb, the word of our testimony and they loved not their lives unto death.”
Please note; The writer has only a short space in which to share the basics. BUT we will explain THE MESSIAH vs the ACCUSER in 3 weeks over on www.organicleader.org HOLY SPIRIT KINGDOM ORDER
But, on this SERIES “GOVERNING YOUR PERCEIVER GIFTING” if the least thing we can do will be to assist pastors, leaders in DISCERNING the qualities of POOR and HEALTHY prophetic Bible training AND help Christ’s Perceiver, Discerner AND NOT, Body learn how to work together to know what “overcoming” (the Accuser) truly means, implies, and then to provide realistic THOUGHT PROVOKING commentary, to “De Frag the Accuser” from immature, even attack, back biting, rumor milling, Front Lines Christ Following Local Perceiver CHURCH, then that will be worth all of the hard leader times, accuser untoward FF (Friendly Fire) but even might help NEW CHURCH GOERS to discern better between what is TRUE, LOVELY and HOLY from what it NEGATIVE, ACCUSATIVE, LEGALISTIC.
So, have to stop now.
TO BE CONTINUED on AUG 21, 8 AM CT.
Reminder: Stay in God’s Word, Fellowship with Mature Fully Committed saints, and be BLESSED while Abiding the Vine!
Excerpt from the new book: GOVERNING YOUR PERCEIVER GIFTING (C) 2013 Taveau D’Arcy Celebration of His Word Books, All rights reserved under international copyright laws.